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Has Sunak lost the plot?
The Times’ Geri Scott joins the podcast team to make sense of the latest chapter in the Conservative Party psychodrama.
What we talked about in this episode
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Whitehall Monitor 2024
Our annual, data-based assessment of the UK civil service, how it has changed and performed over the past year, and its priorities for the future.
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Treasury ‘orthodoxy’
The Treasury wields too much influence across government and dominates strategic thinking at the centre.
People featured in this episode
![Dr Hannah White](/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_full_width_desktop/public/2022-12/hannah-white-326x326.jpg?itok=EIupRXZZ)
Hannah White
Director and CEO
![Rhys Clyne](/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_full_width_desktop/public/2022-12/rhys-clyne-326x326.jpg?itok=q1W1MkbP)
Rhys Clyne
Associate Director
![Giles Wilkes](/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_full_width_desktop/public/2023-01/giles-wilkes-326x326.jpg?itok=mx7zg3Mb)
Giles Wilkes
Senior Fellow