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The Winter Of Discontent 2.0
The Times' Rachel Sylvester joins us to discuss public service strikes and NHS reform, and to look ahead to government in 2023.
What we talked about in this episode
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Pay review bodies
Pay review bodies are independent panels that gather evidence and then provide government with advice each year on pay for many public sector workers.
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Steve Barclay should be wary of trying to directly manage the NHS
Ministers are once again going to try to manage the NHS, but Nicholas Timmins warns that this may not be a good development
People featured in this episode
![Alex Thomas](/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_full_width_desktop/public/2022-12/alex-thomas-326x326.jpg?itok=h977P46U)
Alex Thomas
Programme Director
![Nick Davies](/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_full_width_desktop/public/2022-12/nick-davies-326x326.jpg?itok=2gQtLNx3)
Nick Davies
Programme Director
![Nick Timmins](/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_full_width_desktop/public/2023-01/nick-timmins-326x326.jpg?itok=YUe7m2_k)
Nicholas Timmins
Senior Fellow